Strawberry
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Strawberry is a recurring concept in the Astral Codex Ten archive, appearing 2 times across 2 issues between September 17, 2024 and February 27, 2025. The archive places it in contexts such as “I originally thought this was about Strawberry, but the timing is wrong”; “remember the rumors about “Q*” and “Strawberry”?“. It most often appears alongside Dean Ball, Metaculus, Nate Silver.
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- Category: Concepts
- Mention count: 2
- Issue count: 2
- First seen: September 17, 2024
- Last seen: February 27, 2025
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Recovered passages from the original issue text. When the raw archive preserved outbound links inside the source passage, they are listed directly under the quote.
I originally thought this was about Strawberry, but the timing is wrong: it’s a Google DeepMind AI that got just short of the gold threshold back in July. People seemed genuinely surprised by this!
44: My list of links to publish today includes something like a dozen about DeepSeek, which now seems so thoroughly yesterday’s news that I’m tempted to throw them all out. But in case you still have questions about it, I felt most enlightened by takes from Dean Ball (X), Helen Toner (X), and Miles Brundage (X). The story seems to be that DeepSeek genuinely did a great job, made extensive algorithmic progress, and was able to create an excellent AI on chips scrounged up from before the export controls hit + mediocre chips that got through the export controls. Along with these real reasons to be impressed, there is also a little bit of illusion at work - OpenAI delayed announcing o1 for a long time (remember the rumors about “Q*” and “Strawberry”?) and DeepSeek was very fast to announce r1, which made DeepSeek seem closer behind OpenAI than they really were. Most of the smart people I read said that the absolute worst response to this (from an arms race point of view) would be to give up on export controls - if a rival has geniuses who can use resources ultra-effectively, you don’t want to also give them more resources!