economic justice
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economic justice is a recurring concept in the Astral Codex Ten archive, appearing 2 times across 2 issues between March 16, 2022 and March 24, 2022. The archive places it in contexts such as “Helping the poor becomes economic justice”; “reframe “helping the poor” or “saving the poor” as “pursuing economic justice."". It most often appears alongside 1984, Apollo Mojave, Charity.
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- Category: Concepts
- Mention count: 2
- Issue count: 2
- First seen: March 16, 2022
- Last seen: March 24, 2022
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- 1984 (2 shared issues)
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- Apollo Mojave (2 shared issues)
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- Charity (2 shared issues)
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- climate justice (2 shared issues)
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- environmental justice (2 shared issues)
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- O’Brien (2 shared issues)
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- Rawls (2 shared issues)
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- Sniper (2 shared issues)
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- Terra Ignota (2 shared issues)
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- Acrolectics (1 shared issues)
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- Adnamanil (1 shared issues)
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- AJPio (1 shared issues)
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Recovered passages from the original issue text. When the raw archive preserved outbound links inside the source passage, they are listed directly under the quote.
Helping the poor becomes economic justice. If they’re minorities, then it’s racial justice, itself a subspecies of social justice. Saving the environment becomes environmental justice, except when it’s about climate change in which case it’s climate justice. Caring about young people is actually about fighting for intergenerational justice. The very laws of space and time are subject to spatial justice and temporal justice.
Inline links: economic justice, racial justice, social justice, environmental justice, climate justice, intergenerational justice, spatial justice, temporal justice
This is mostly a semantic shift - instead of saying “we should help the poor”, you can say “we should pursue economic justice”. But different framings have slightly different implications and connotations, and it’s worth examining what connotations all this justice talk has.
“We should pursue economic justice” suggests other assumptions. Current economic conditions are unjust. There is some particular way to make them just, or at least closer to just. We have some kind of obligation to pursue it. We are not helpers or saviors, who can pat ourselves on the back and feel heroic for leaving the world better than we found it. We are some weird superposition of criminals and cops, both responsible for breaking the moral law and responsible for restoring it, trying to redress some sort of violation. The end result isn’t utopia, it’s people getting what they deserve.
So... as someone who actually does use "___" Justice, quite frequently, I'd like to say that I think it's a good thing to reframe "helping the poor" or "saving the poor" as "pursuing economic justice." I don't think it's a good thing for people to think of themselves as saviors, to me that's a really unhealthy and unhelpful mindset which results in people who aren't themselves poor thinking they can be the experts and the decision-makers, and that there is something wrong with poor people, that they need to be "saved" or "fixed." We live in a world where there is enough food to feed everyone, yet people go hungry; enough shelter to keep everyone warm, yet people go cold. To me, that says there is something wrong with our system of resource distribution, not with the people who ended up, for one reason or another, being left out of it.
And Philosophy Bear, as Economic Justice And Climate Justice Are Not Metaphors:
Nevertheless, yes, climate justice and economic justice- for example- are also about being just in the same way laws against murder are- no stretching of meaning is required…